Sir John Bernard Burke's Genealogy of John Gregson of Murton d. 1607

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Sir John Bernard Burke's Genealogy of John Gregson of Murton d. 1607

Post  drfalken on Sat May 26, 2012 12:21 pm

Burke has published this reference to John Gregson of Murton in his MANY books on heraldry.

John Bernard Burke, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland v. 1 (London: Harrison, 1871) p. 546

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Father of John Gregson of Murton and Burdon b 1805

Post  Val Edwards on Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:38 am

In the following

"The British herald, or Cabinet of armorial bearings of the nobility & gentry of Great Britain and Ireland. Vol 1  By Thomas Robson (engraver.).   Published 1 January 1830"
Books.google.co.uk - (search on Gregson p623) has this entry:

"GREGSON, John (Durham originally from Derby ) ar. A saltier gu a canton chequy or and az.; on an escutcheon of pretence ar. A cross gu engr between four mullets az. On a chief or the last, three roses on the first ... ... (A Subscriber)

This John Gregson b 1774 died 1840 married Elizabeth Lancelot Allgood.  (Their son was John b 1805 who died 1879 and who married firstly Isabella Reed mentioned in Don's post above)

The  arms here mentioned reflect both Gregson and Allgood.  But it is the words "originally from Derby" which took my interest.  John is a direct descendant of Richard the son of John of Murton (d 1607).  Could this mean his direct ancestor John Gregson of Murton 1607  hails originally from Derbyshire?  Of course, I am not ignoring that he went from Barton Upon Humber in Lincolnshire to Murton in Co Durham.  But we do not know where he was born!
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Early Gregson genealogy which refers to Derbyshire

Post  drfalken on Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:49 pm

Interesting. Here is a branch of the Gregson family which refers to Gregsons of Derbyshire. Is this a possible connection???

From Familiae minorum gentium, Volume 1
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Gregsons of Sherrow Hall, Derbyshire

Post  Val Edwards on Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:48 am

Having studied the Gregson Pedigree of Derbyshire in the online book Familiae Minorum Gentium vol 1 (on archive.org) p.216, Thomas Gregson who married Alicia Merry (c1560 according to Reid who wrote the booklet entitled  the "History of the Gregsons of Whalley p18) had brothers named John, William and Gregory.  Thomas is said to have died in the 38th year of the reign of Elizabeth I namely 1596.  John of Murton died in 1607 - a similar period.  However, information which makes one wary of this link is that whereas John's eldest son was 50 when he died the Pedigree named above states that Henricus, son of Thomas, was only 12 when his father died.  However, he could have been the youngest of his six siblings.
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